Comments on: Cards’ 1B: Better than Yanks’ RF and Bosox’ LF? http://www.fungoes.net/2006/02/17/cards-1b-better-than-yanks-rf-and-bosox-lf/ Official blog of the St. Louis chapter of SABR Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:25:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Pip http://www.fungoes.net/2006/02/17/cards-1b-better-than-yanks-rf-and-bosox-lf/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Pip Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:15:00 +0000 http://www.fungoes.net/?p=415#comment-452 No doubt, Danup. "Ripper" has to rank up there with Jimmie "The Beast" Foxx and Harmon "Killer" Killebrew. No doubt, Danup. “Ripper” has to rank up there with Jimmie “The Beast” Foxx and Harmon “Killer” Killebrew.

]]> By: danup http://www.fungoes.net/2006/02/17/cards-1b-better-than-yanks-rf-and-bosox-lf/comment-page-1/#comment-451 danup Sun, 19 Feb 2006 02:28:00 +0000 http://www.fungoes.net/?p=415#comment-451 And even not taking the fact that he was a good player into account, having "Ripper" as a nickname makes you cool regardless of ability. And even not taking the fact that he was a good player into account, having “Ripper” as a nickname makes you cool regardless of ability.

]]> By: DanUp http://www.fungoes.net/2006/02/17/cards-1b-better-than-yanks-rf-and-bosox-lf/comment-page-1/#comment-450 DanUp Sun, 19 Feb 2006 02:27:00 +0000 http://www.fungoes.net/?p=415#comment-450 Ripper Collins really had some good seasons early on, too. That 1934 was gaudy, 87 XBH and all. Ripper Collins really had some good seasons early on, too. That 1934 was gaudy, 87 XBH and all.

]]> By: Pip http://www.fungoes.net/2006/02/17/cards-1b-better-than-yanks-rf-and-bosox-lf/comment-page-1/#comment-449 Pip Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:43:00 +0000 http://www.fungoes.net/?p=415#comment-449 Yes, included fielding: It's <a HREF="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=193" rel="nofollow">WARP1</A> -- The number of wins this player contributed, above what a replacement level hitter, fielder, and pitcher would have done -- adjusted for difficulty and games in a season. As for Tino, you're right. He did as well as what he might've been expected to do. Removing his best two and worst two seasons, his career average WARP3 is 4.8, so in that light, he actually did pretty well (by his standards). Still, not overly helpful in getting the Cardinals' 1B legacy to stack up against those Yank CFs. :) Yes, included fielding: It’s WARP1 — The number of wins this player contributed, above what a replacement level hitter, fielder, and pitcher would have done — adjusted for difficulty and games in a season.

As for Tino, you’re right. He did as well as what he might’ve been expected to do. Removing his best two and worst two seasons, his career average WARP3 is 4.8, so in that light, he actually did pretty well (by his standards). Still, not overly helpful in getting the Cardinals’ 1B legacy to stack up against those Yank CFs. :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.fungoes.net/2006/02/17/cards-1b-better-than-yanks-rf-and-bosox-lf/comment-page-1/#comment-448 Anonymous Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:58:00 +0000 http://www.fungoes.net/?p=415#comment-448 One thing that I noticed was how good Tino was compared to other Card first basemen throughout history. Defense is part of WARP3, right? One thing that I noticed was how good Tino was compared to other Card first basemen throughout history. Defense is part of WARP3, right?

]]> By: Rich Lederer http://www.fungoes.net/2006/02/17/cards-1b-better-than-yanks-rf-and-bosox-lf/comment-page-1/#comment-447 Rich Lederer Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:16:00 +0000 http://www.fungoes.net/?p=415#comment-447 Nicely done, Matthew. I don't think there is any question that the Cardinals have had the best "lineage" of 1B. The Yankees are the only other team that would even be close in my estimation. But let me know if and when you decide to study the issue. Nicely done, Matthew.

I don’t think there is any question that the Cardinals have had the best “lineage” of 1B. The Yankees are the only other team that would even be close in my estimation. But let me know if and when you decide to study the issue.

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