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	<title>Comments on: Around the horn: Can Mozeliak emulate Ed Wade?</title>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.fungoes.net/2007/11/12/around-the-horn-can-mozeliak-emulate-ed-wade/comment-page-1/#comment-4751</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have left a link so&#039;s youse know I&#039;m not just making things up. Google news search brings up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsdaily.com/index.php?feed=Sports&amp;article=UPI-1-20070726-14423100-bc-bb-coachkilled.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have left a link so&#8217;s youse know I&#8217;m not just making things up. Google news search brings up <a href="http://www.newsdaily.com/index.php?feed=Sports&amp;article=UPI-1-20070726-14423100-bc-bb-coachkilled.xml" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: zubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>zubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Liam

I didn&#039;t know that and I can&#039;t believe I was alone in my ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Liam</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that and I can&#8217;t believe I was alone in my ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.fungoes.net/2007/11/12/around-the-horn-can-mozeliak-emulate-ed-wade/comment-page-1/#comment-4749</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Base coaches wearing helmets...

Coolbaugh wasn&#039;t hit in the head. The ball hit him in his neck. The sudden pressure in his carotid artery caused a fatally sudden spike in blood pressure to his brain and aneurysms. A helmet wouldn&#039;t have saved his life&#151;nothing would have short of Mike seeing the ball coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Base coaches wearing helmets&#8230;</p>
<p>Coolbaugh wasn&#8217;t hit in the head. The ball hit him in his neck. The sudden pressure in his carotid artery caused a fatally sudden spike in blood pressure to his brain and aneurysms. A helmet wouldn&#8217;t have saved his life&#8212;nothing would have short of Mike seeing the ball coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Pip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JEd was at 99.32, and So was at 103.35. But Taguchi&#039;s number should be downplayed, since it was based so much smaller a sample (less than half the balls in play as JEd). Do I consider JEd&#039;s defense pretty good? Indeed, I do, since he was 11th among CFs who has as many balls in play as he did. I&#039;m not claiming he&#039;s as good as ever, but he&#039;s still putting up better PMR numbers than Rowand, Wells and Sizemore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JEd was at 99.32, and So was at 103.35. But Taguchi&#8217;s number should be downplayed, since it was based so much smaller a sample (less than half the balls in play as JEd). Do I consider JEd&#8217;s defense pretty good? Indeed, I do, since he was 11th among CFs who has as many balls in play as he did. I&#8217;m not claiming he&#8217;s as good as ever, but he&#8217;s still putting up better PMR numbers than Rowand, Wells and Sizemore.</p>
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		<title>By: Pip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helmets: Good observations, Zubin. I&#039;m really not that bothered by the coaches wearing them (like John Olerud, who was one of my favorites, they shouldn&#039;t be begrudged their desire to live). It&#039;s more of an aesthetic thing: I prefer natural to the video-gamelike caricatures that so much of baseball looks like today. Nice risk-assessment, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helmets: Good observations, Zubin. I&#8217;m really not that bothered by the coaches wearing them (like John Olerud, who was one of my favorites, they shouldn&#8217;t be begrudged their desire to live). It&#8217;s more of an aesthetic thing: I prefer natural to the video-gamelike caricatures that so much of baseball looks like today. Nice risk-assessment, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Pip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys may be right on the Lidge deal. We should revisit the deal next year at this time! I guess I liked it mostly for the Astros from a philosophical viewpoint. But it&#039;s worth noting that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/stats/players/index.php?lastName=lidge&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lidge&#039;s FIP and HR/G numbers&lt;/a&gt; have been steadily increasing despite improving support/luck numbers (DER and HR/F). I hadn&#039;t considered the compensatory draft pick, though -- good catch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys may be right on the Lidge deal. We should revisit the deal next year at this time! I guess I liked it mostly for the Astros from a philosophical viewpoint. But it&#8217;s worth noting that <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/stats/players/index.php?lastName=lidge" rel="nofollow">Lidge&#8217;s FIP and HR/G numbers</a> have been steadily increasing despite improving support/luck numbers (DER and HR/F). I hadn&#8217;t considered the compensatory draft pick, though &#8212; good catch.</p>
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		<title>By: zubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>zubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pip:
Unless I misunderstand, the data you cite on Edmonds shows he plays a below average centerfielder and the So is the superior fly-catcher for the Cardinals...  Do you really think J&#039;Ed defense is still &quot;pretty good.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pip:<br />
Unless I misunderstand, the data you cite on Edmonds shows he plays a below average centerfielder and the So is the superior fly-catcher for the Cardinals&#8230;  Do you really think J&#8217;Ed defense is still &#8220;pretty good.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: zubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>zubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few quibles on coaches wearing batting helmets.

(1)I&#039;d wouldn&#039;t really put helmets in the same class as body armor.  The problem with body armor is that it makes players less fearful (rightfuly so) of being hit by a pitch, so they crowd the plate more.  Body armor on coaches or pitchers as you suggest would hardly encourage &quot;heading&quot; a baseball a&#039;la soccer.

(2) When assesing risk priority.  The ocurance, prevention/detection and severity are all factors.  Obviously the occurance of being hit by a batted ball is very low for a coach.  But as Coolbaugh showed the severity is very high and that is why prevention/detection is needed despite the low occurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few quibles on coaches wearing batting helmets.</p>
<p>(1)I&#8217;d wouldn&#8217;t really put helmets in the same class as body armor.  The problem with body armor is that it makes players less fearful (rightfuly so) of being hit by a pitch, so they crowd the plate more.  Body armor on coaches or pitchers as you suggest would hardly encourage &#8220;heading&#8221; a baseball a&#8217;la soccer.</p>
<p>(2) When assesing risk priority.  The ocurance, prevention/detection and severity are all factors.  Obviously the occurance of being hit by a batted ball is very low for a coach.  But as Coolbaugh showed the severity is very high and that is why prevention/detection is needed despite the low occurance.</p>
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		<title>By: bigskyredbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigskyredbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, pip, I also disagree with you on the Astros/Phillies trade.  Lidge may be replaceable, but he&#039;s still a reliever who will give the Phils a solid season, and he always has the potential to be lightsout (even if that is a swiftly diminishing possibility).  But on top of that, he&#039;ll walk on free agency, giving Philadelphia compensatory picks that they will be able to use to procure (most likely) better players than the guys they sent to Houston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, pip, I also disagree with you on the Astros/Phillies trade.  Lidge may be replaceable, but he&#8217;s still a reliever who will give the Phils a solid season, and he always has the potential to be lightsout (even if that is a swiftly diminishing possibility).  But on top of that, he&#8217;ll walk on free agency, giving Philadelphia compensatory picks that they will be able to use to procure (most likely) better players than the guys they sent to Houston.</p>
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		<title>By: roarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>roarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure about that Lidge trade.  I&#039;ve read conflicting reports about Costanzo (who should play for the Yankees, if only for the Seinfeld references), and I&#039;m not sold on Bourn being anything other than fast.  They sound like two spare parts to me (one a AAAA 3B and the other a defensive replacement/pinch runner).  If I were an Astros fan, I would have hoped for more than that, even if it was more in the way of &#039;potential down the road&#039;.  The market does still overvalue closers and I&#039;ve got to believe that a team like the Tigers (after Zumaya went down) would have given up a bit more for Lidge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure about that Lidge trade.  I&#8217;ve read conflicting reports about Costanzo (who should play for the Yankees, if only for the Seinfeld references), and I&#8217;m not sold on Bourn being anything other than fast.  They sound like two spare parts to me (one a AAAA 3B and the other a defensive replacement/pinch runner).  If I were an Astros fan, I would have hoped for more than that, even if it was more in the way of &#8216;potential down the road&#8217;.  The market does still overvalue closers and I&#8217;ve got to believe that a team like the Tigers (after Zumaya went down) would have given up a bit more for Lidge.</p>
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