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Preseason questions: Should McClellan be considered for the rotation?

One of the lead stories on the nearly static Post-Dispatch Cardinals page of the last week has been "Kyle McClellan in the mix for a spot in rotation." The Cardinals have been known to encourage their relievers to train "long" in spring training — that is, to prepare as starters — based on the idea that it’s easier to scale back to fewer innings in a relief role when the season starts than to go the other way. But to the extent that McClellan may be doing more than simply going through a routine preparation, what might the team and fans expect from him as a starter?

The most recent analog for a reliever-to-starter conversion project is of course Braden Looper, whom Cardinal pitching coach Dave Duncan helped create almost as much value starting as he did relieving. That was because although Loope had a worse ERA as a starter, he pitched more innings. In his three seasons prior to becoming a full-time starter, he averaged 2.1 WAR; in his subsequent three years as a starter, he averaged 1.9. But that’s only one example. In the last 10 years, nine pitchers have started at least 75 games and relieved in 200 (not necessarily following Looper’s path of exclusively relieving to exclusively starting). Curiously, five of them have pitched for the Cardinals:

Player GS GR
Braden Looper 97 497
Scott Schoeneweis 93 438
Julian Tavarez 96 419
Ryan Franklin 106 340
Miguel Batista 201 213
Ryan Dempster 190 222
Byung-Hyun Kim 87 282
John Smoltz 125 242
Darren Oliver 101 245

And their career splits by role:

As Starter As Reliever
Player IP SO/BB HR/G ERA IP SO/BB HR/G ERA
Looper 568 1/3 1.84 1.33 4.75 607 2/3 1.76 0.67 3.58
Schoeneweis 577 1/3 1.27 1.06 5.33 381 1.67 0.89 4.44
Tavarez 581 1/3 1.23 0.73 5.08 823 1.70 0.76 4.02
Franklin 668 1.68 1.34 4.45 440 1/3 1.99 1.27 3.50
Batista 1380 1/3 1.43 0.96 4.51 380 2/3 1.40 0.95 4.68
Dempster 1395 1/3 1.78 0.98 4.50 229 2/3 1.74 0.60 4.11
Kim 476 1.84 1.14 5.03 365 2.51 0.74 3.53
Smoltz 3211 2/3 2.92 0.78 3.40 261 1/3 5.60 0.64 2.41
Oliver 1303 1/3 1.44 1.07 5.13 394 2.13 0.84 3.49

And the differences between their stats as starter and as reliever:

Player SO/BB HR/PA ERA
Braden Looper 4.3% 49.9% 24.6%
Scott Schoeneweis -31.5% 16.2% 16.7%
Julian Tavarez -38.2% -4.5% 20.9%
Ryan Franklin -18.5% 5.7% 21.3%
Miguel Batista 2.1% 0.9% -3.8%
Ryan Dempster 2.2% 38.4% 8.7%
Byung-Hyun Kim -36.4% 35.3% 29.8%
John Smoltz -91.8% 18.1% 29.1%
Darren Oliver -47.9% 21.2% 32.0%
Average -28.4% 20.1% 19.9%

The chart shows what most people already knew: That, for the most part, pitchers are more effective in short outings (i.e., as relievers): The group of nine had a 20% lower ERA, 20% lower HR/PA and 28% higher SO/BB as relievers than as starters.

What does that mean for McClellan? First, let’s see how much value he is expected to provide as a reliever. His average projected FIP for 2010 — as a reliever — is about 3.93 over 65 innings. That’s roughly .4 WAR, about the same level he attained in 2008 and 2009 (.4 and .3, respectively). Though no one — including Dave Duncan — can predict what he would do as a starter, it’s reasonable to think that he would perform similarly to those who have gone before him. So if we adjust his FIP upward by that ratio, that yields a Todd Wellemeyer-like 4.91 FIP. Though we’re sure we don’t need to remind anyone what fans thought of the Colonel in the starting rotation, for the sake of argument that comes to about a -0.3 WAR .5 WAR, assuming a modest 120 innings pitched as a fifth starter. The reason appears to be that, with a 4.91 FIP, McClellan would pass the break-even point for returning positive value as a starter reliever, but he is below that threshold as a starter, where the breakeven is more like 5.50.

Looking at the numbers of those versatile hurlers, one has to ask if Ryan Franklin would be a better bet to start than McClellan. Some reasons:

  • Franklin has already done it at the major-league level.
  • Franklin performed as well as Looper as a starter.
  • Franklin doesn’t demonstrate any marked improvement over how this set of pitchers performs as relievers.

None of that is to say that Franklin should be rotation material — just that he makes as much sense as McClellan, which is to say not much.

Perhaps McClellan could take on Brad Thompson’s old role, pitching in relief and taking an occasional spot start. But that seems untenable, since Thompson’s relief duties were limited to long (a.k.a. mopup) outings, whereas McClellan seems to have more value to the team as a frequent-use setup man. But as far as getting more value from him in the rotation goes, La Runcan would have to believe they can accomplish something that is pretty hard to pull off. As George Constanza once asked, "Where do you get the ego?" (punchline is no longer funny in the face of those pesky facts!).

6 Responses to “Preseason questions: Should McClellan be considered for the rotation?”

  1. Pitchers Hit Eighth Says:

    Wow, WAR apparently really falls off the table between 4.4 FIP and 4.9?

    http://playahardnine.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/kyle-mcclellan-as-a-starter/

    Not sure where the respective numbers came from to get the differences, but 0.5 FIP results in a 1.9 WAR swing?

    Zowie. Seems like a thin line to walk, if they make the move.

  2. Pip Says:

    Thanks for linking to Erik’s treatment of the same subject. Yeah, it seems that the FIP breakeven point (regardless of innings) is 4.50. I made a few different assumptions from what Erik did (leverage, for instance), but I think the heart of the matter is what one projects McClellan’s FIP at.

  3. Pitchers Hit Eighth Says:

    Sorry if I overstepped my bounds. :)

    FIP is still a learning stat for me, I admit to knowing little else than it being more of a true measure of pitching than ERA because of removal of defense.

    That being said, I’m trying to learn more about it, obviously, from my reading list. :)

    So at 4.50 FIP or higher, a pitcher’s value to the team drops exponentially? Where would that exact 4.50 FIP land a pitcher in terms of WAR? Zero?

  4. Pip Says:

    It’s hard for me to fathom you overstepping your bounds here — your comments are always welcome and valued!

    As for the 4.50 FIP (or ERA, for that matter), I’m re-reading the comments at Beyond the Boxscore, whence the WAR spreadsheet that I’m using comes. Sky Kalkman, the author, writes of the replacement levels:

    It’s more like 4.60 for relievers and 5.50 for starters these days. Plus/minus .10 runs for AL/NL for relievers and plus/minus .13 runs for AL/NL for starters.

    Again, that’s replacement level.

    I’ve corrected my error in the post (see the strikethroughs). I’m still learning, too. :)

  5. Pitchers Hit Eighth Says:

    Glad I could help(?). Your point is still well-made, and I have been beating the keep KMac in the ‘pen drum for a while.

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