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Recap: Cubs 3, Cardinals 2

John Mozeliak notes that the Cardinals “still think we have some holes.” One is right field, stomach and Carlos Beltran would fill it well.

Despite currently polling at Fungoes as the Cardinals

6 Responses to “Recap: Cubs 3, Cardinals 2”

  1. Scott H Says:

    I think your stretching a little too far to prove that a pitchers W/L record doesn’t mean anything. How can a tough loss like that not negate some of the positives before. Sure Garcia pitched great but who cares…..we lost. That is all Goold was saying IMO.

  2. Pip Says:

    Don’t read what I’m not writing: There is a big difference between team wins and losses, which obviously are the most important stat, and pitcher wins and losses, which contain enough variables outside of the pitcher’s control as to render them useless. And I didn’t say that the loss didn’t negate some of the positives; surely it does nullify some of the positive emotions engendered by Jaime’s start.

    If that’s all that Derrick was saying, that’s a very imprecise use of the language, wouldn’t you agree?

  3. Scott H Says:

    Pip – I really like your work but in this case no I don’t agree. You tell me not to read what you don’t write. I would recommend you don’t read what Goold doesn’t write. I didn’t read the article so perhaps there is more to it but I don’t take anymore from that quote than what it says which never mentions Garcia getting a win or lose. Anyways isn’t all that important so look forward to following you during the season.

  4. Pip Says:

    Thanks, Scott — and no problem. I hope that this blog is a place where reasonable minds may disagree. 🙂 I appreciate you taking the time to voice your disagreement and keep me honest!

  5. EFitz Says:

    Maybe this is a good place to vent about the timeless phrase used by baseball announcers: “And [insert pitcher of record] really has a chance to help himself out here.”

    Is that because the pitcher is dependent on earning a W for his all-important record? Doesn’t every batter whoever steps to the plate with a run on base or even with the bases clear and an opportunity to start a rally, doesn’t every such batter have an opportunity to help his team out? Or is it only the pitcher who can help himself?

    I have to say I’m unreasonably defensive of the W for pitchers, but this phrase is among the most annoying of announcers’ common phrases.

  6. Pip Says:

    Great observation, EFitz! I think you’re absolutely right. I’ll add that to my broadcaster peccadillo list! 🙂

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