Quotebook: Cardinals 8, Mets 7
Thursday, July 29th, 2010We kind of thought that Holliday was, at least tonight, swinging the bat a little bit better than Albert. It was a tough call. We were going to try to leave the ball away, make him hit it on the ground someplace and hopefully we would be able to get it. We were playing with fire and we got burned.
– Jerry Manuel
As the preseason ad said, pick your poison. With Albert Pujols featuring a below-career .398 wOBA and Matt Holliday an above-career .394, Manuel didn’t even need to limit his claim to "at least tonight" — the two sluggers are basically the same player this season.
Whereas Tony La Russa was largely responsible for his team’s loss in the 20-inning game earlier this year, this time, it was Manuel’s turn to mismanage his team, though, in fairness, it was nothing even approaching La Russa’s debacle. Credit the Cardinal manager with learning from his prior mistake by not switching the pitcher spot into the cleanup spot. But even TLR didn’t get off scot-free this time: We disliked his upside-down approach to deploying his relievers, using the inferior Mike MacDougal before Ryan Franklin. If the Mets had scored in the 12th off the recently promoted MacDougal, how does TLR explain losing a game in the 12th inning with his "closer," which we assume to him means his best reliever, on the bench?
Both managers had emptied their benches and were forced to have pitchers hit in the 13th inning. The only difference was that TLR had Wainwright, a career .259
wOBA hitter, as a final bullet. Then again, Manuel’s Raul Valdes had a .564 wOBA going into his plate appearance. In 10 career plate appearances.
I pulled back, and that’s the smart play. You can look at it a different way. You can look at it like I wasn’t hustling, but you know what? Late in the game like that, if I feel good, I’m going to do everything that I can to try to break up the double play. But when you don’t have anybody in extra innings and you feel something, the last thing you want to do is hurt yourself and be the last guy and throw a pitcher out there to play your position.
This is a perfectly reasonable explanation. It was also the reasoning that another Cardinal first baseman once gave for what appeared as less than 100% effort: Keith Hernandez. The difference, of course, is that whereas Pujols calls the tune with the current Cardinal manager, Whitey Herzog maintained uniform discipline across his roster, such that no player, not even the team captain, multiple-time All-Star and former league MVP, was above the team.
Usually in the first inning, you’re focusing on your first-inning pitching. Not hitting. But I was up there, and I’m like, ‘I’m not just going to strike out swinging at bad pitches. He’s going to have to throw me good pitches.’ It was a huge at-bat for our win today.
The Cardinals ran their win expectancy as high as 92.8% in the first inning. It went as high as 96.7% at the end of the seventh inning before the Mets swung the game 60.0% points their way in the eighth.
Speaking of the win-expectancy game, the bad-running Cardinals made another unnecessary out on the bases last night, this one in the 13th inning. Jon Jay tried but failed to score from third on a pitch in the dirt. Adam Wainwright was pinch-hitting with two out and the bases loaded. Was it a good attempt? Judging by the win-expectancy table below, it was:
| State | WE |
| pre | 85.0 |
| success | 93.3 |
| fail | 80.0 |
| Reward | 8.3 |
| Risk | -5.0 |
So the potential reward was worth the risk. Sometimes, the chance is worth it.


