Hot Stove Luncheon: “I Should’ve Retired a Couple Years Ago”
Monday, February 2nd, 2009[Ed. note: When should a player retire? It's a difficult and frustratingly subjective question. Bob Broeg SABR Chapter President Jim Rygelski discussed some "what-if" scenarios for a few of the greats, like Stan Musial and Mickey Mantle, at this year's Hot Stove Luncheon.]
One of the toughest decisions a major league baseball player, especially a great one, will make is when to retire. By the time he begins to admit in his mid- to late thirties that his skills are lessening and that he may lose his starter’s status to a younger player, the veteran has probably already been a professional athlete for two decades. And for as long as he can remember into his boyhood, all he’s done is play baseball.
Few things for the fan are more painful than to watch a once great player struggle in his twilight years. Who hasn’t winced at seeing the film clip of Babe Ruth in one of his last seasons with the Yankees striking out with a terrible swing then trying to keep himself upright by bouncing around on one foot because he’d pulled a muscle. Who wasn’t embarrassed for Bob Gibson when, during the last month of his career in 1975, he gave up a grand slam home run to Pete LaCock, who batted .229 that year.
Yogi Berra, who managed Willie Mays on the Mets during Mays’ last season, 1973, recalled the Hall of Famer that year in this way: “I managed Willie Mays … although he wasn’t Willie Mays anymore. He was 41 and couldn’t do what he used to, so it was a tough situation. He wanted to go out on a high note in New York, where he’d started his career. He had a couple of embarrassing moments on the field. That wasn’t the Willie Mays anyone wanted to remember, so he quit, a couple seasons later than he should’ve.”
Willie Mays was able to help the Giants win the Western Division crown in 1971, but he wasn’t able to help either them or the Mets much in 1972 and ’73. When Mickey Mantle announced his retirement on March 1, 1969, forgoing his plans to play one more season, he stated what many fans and teammates had privately thought about the Mick’s declining abilities. Yet, in his comments at a retirement press conference, Mantle gave several reasons for hanging it up that showed how classy he was for considering not only his reputation but also the well being of his teammates and the goodwill of the fans who still rooted for him:(Continue reading)
